Market and Profile Patterns that affect Odds for Today's and Tomorrow's Trading Sessions
To Shadow Traders,
Per Mark Douglas, an edge is higher odds of one thing happening over another. As we all know, as a result of human behavior, there are patterns that show up in the markets that repeat themselves. These patterns can represent an edge.
If you listen to or watch James, Peter, or Brad for any length time it is hard not to notice that they are always looking at market patterns to assess odds of continuation higher or lower or odds of a reversal.
There are patterns that they look at that impact the odds for today’s session and there are patterns that they look to at the end of each day that impact the odds for tomorrow’s session.
As a result of listening to and watching James, Peter, and Brad, I have learned that the following patterns are helpful in assessing odds for today's sessions as well as tomorrow's sessions.
Market and Profile Patterns that affect Odds for Today's Trading Session
1. Overnight inventory long or short
2. Open inside yesterday's value area/range
3. Open outside yesterday's value area/range
4. Opening gap above or below yesterday's range
5. Opening type directional confidence
6. Prior day double distribution ranges
7. Prior day spike higher or lower
8. Above or below unchanged
9. Above or below halfback
10. Excess high or low intraday
11. Lack of excess high or low intraday
12. Breakout above or below yesterday's value/range
13. Breakout above or below balance area on daily, weekly, or monthly charts
14. Above or below average volume
15. Market Internals strong or weak
16. Timeframe in control
17. Balancing day (day timeframe in control)
18. Trending day (longer timeframes in control)
19. Price tempo as price approaches support or resistance
20. Trending day inventory adjustment
21. Daytime inventory too long or too short
Market and Profile Patterns that affect Odds for Tomorrow's Trading Session
1. Value area placement relative to prior days
2. Symmetrical day profile
3. Nonsymmetrical day profile -- Elongated up or down
4. Nonsymmetrical day profile -- Too stretched out up or down (> 2 distributions)
5. Nonsymmetrical day profile -- "P" profile (short covering)
6. Nonsymmetrical day profile -- "b" profile (long liquidation)
7. Prominent POC or Anomalies on day profile
8. Poor high and/or low on day profile
9. Upward or downward 45 degree line (long or short at poor prices)
10. Exponential affect of multiple occurrences of structural weakness
11. Value area/range breakout day with or without gap (3-I day)
12. Outside day w value area/range breakout (2I-1R day)
13. Neutral day high or low close
14. Excess high or low on daily, weekly, monthly charts
15. Lack of excess high or low on daily, weekly, monthly charts
16. Trend and one timeframing on daily, weekly, monthly charts
17. Unfilled gap
18. Trade location at go/no go reference (highs or lows of prior trends or balance areas) on
daily, weekly, monthly charts
This is by no means a complete list, but it is a long list. The thing that is "really cool" as Peter would say is that once you have internalized these patterns, your mind just naturally looks for the patterns it knows and does so at very high speeds. Per Mark Douglas, your mind can only see what it already knows. Conversely, as relates to trading, you are not going to see any patterns that you do not already know.
As a result of my learning process and personal experience, I have come to two main realizations. The first is that it takes time and patience to learn and internalize each new tool to the point where you can apply it and get results. The second is that with the seemingly infinite number and combination of complexities that impact odds as well as the human element, trading really is an art versus a science. As a consequence, the more scientific you try to be, the higher the odds you will get frustrated. It is advisable to prepare for multiple likely scenarios each day, because anything is possible in the markets.
I encourage you to create your own list of patterns with their associated odds implications, which is relevant to your own style of trading, if you have not already done so. Your level of understanding of the realtionships between patterns and higher or lower odds of one thing happening over another, represents your level of understanding of market logic and the market environment. The better you understand market logic, the better you will be able to anticipate market moves, and the higher the odds you will meet your trading goals and objectives. Remembering, that you can manage risk, but you can't manage return.
I have sent my notes (detailing the odds implications of each of the patterns listed above) to Peter and Brad. I am more than willing to share them with other Shadow Traders who may have an interest, provided Peter and Brad feel it is appropriate and figure out an appropriate way to do so. I do not consider myself to be an expert on this stuff and I am definitely not trying to impress anyone. My only motivation for sharing is to pay back and help other Shadow Trader listeners. I have not only learned a great deal from Brad and Peter, but also from other Shadow Traders' questions and comments over the years. As I mentioned in a prior post, I have been learning about Dalton's approach on and off for the last three years, so I may be a little further ahead on the learning curve than some Shadow Trader listeners. If sharing what I have learned via my notes can help speed-up the learning process for other interested Shadow Traders, then that is great. What makes the Shadow Trader program so powerful is the interaction and sharing among traders.
Also per Mark Douglas, is that the focus of your trading should be on what you need to learn or what you need to do to adapt to the market environment. The process of creating and organizing my own notes has helped me internalize Dalton's approach to trading. I have shared these notes with James and Julia at J Dalton Trading and have gotten invaluable input from both. What I found interesting though, was a comment I received back in an email from James, and that was "Traders are notorious for not sharing". So with this in mind, I thank Peter and Brad for creating an environment where Shadow Traders can share and learn with each other.
To Shadow Traders,
Per Mark Douglas, an edge is higher odds of one thing happening over another. As we all know, as a result of human behavior, there are patterns that show up in the markets that repeat themselves. These patterns can represent an edge.
If you listen to or watch James, Peter, or Brad for any length time it is hard not to notice that they are always looking at market patterns to assess odds of continuation higher or lower or odds of a reversal.
There are patterns that they look at that impact the odds for today’s session and there are patterns that they look to at the end of each day that impact the odds for tomorrow’s session.
As a result of listening to and watching James, Peter, and Brad, I have learned that the following patterns are helpful in assessing odds for today's sessions as well as tomorrow's sessions.
Market and Profile Patterns that affect Odds for Today's Trading Session
1. Overnight inventory long or short
2. Open inside yesterday's value area/range
3. Open outside yesterday's value area/range
4. Opening gap above or below yesterday's range
5. Opening type directional confidence
6. Prior day double distribution ranges
7. Prior day spike higher or lower
8. Above or below unchanged
9. Above or below halfback
10. Excess high or low intraday
11. Lack of excess high or low intraday
12. Breakout above or below yesterday's value/range
13. Breakout above or below balance area on daily, weekly, or monthly charts
14. Above or below average volume
15. Market Internals strong or weak
16. Timeframe in control
17. Balancing day (day timeframe in control)
18. Trending day (longer timeframes in control)
19. Price tempo as price approaches support or resistance
20. Trending day inventory adjustment
21. Daytime inventory too long or too short
Market and Profile Patterns that affect Odds for Tomorrow's Trading Session
1. Value area placement relative to prior days
2. Symmetrical day profile
3. Nonsymmetrical day profile -- Elongated up or down
4. Nonsymmetrical day profile -- Too stretched out up or down (> 2 distributions)
5. Nonsymmetrical day profile -- "P" profile (short covering)
6. Nonsymmetrical day profile -- "b" profile (long liquidation)
7. Prominent POC or Anomalies on day profile
8. Poor high and/or low on day profile
9. Upward or downward 45 degree line (long or short at poor prices)
10. Exponential affect of multiple occurrences of structural weakness
11. Value area/range breakout day with or without gap (3-I day)
12. Outside day w value area/range breakout (2I-1R day)
13. Neutral day high or low close
14. Excess high or low on daily, weekly, monthly charts
15. Lack of excess high or low on daily, weekly, monthly charts
16. Trend and one timeframing on daily, weekly, monthly charts
17. Unfilled gap
18. Trade location at go/no go reference (highs or lows of prior trends or balance areas) on
daily, weekly, monthly charts
This is by no means a complete list, but it is a long list. The thing that is "really cool" as Peter would say is that once you have internalized these patterns, your mind just naturally looks for the patterns it knows and does so at very high speeds. Per Mark Douglas, your mind can only see what it already knows. Conversely, as relates to trading, you are not going to see any patterns that you do not already know.
As a result of my learning process and personal experience, I have come to two main realizations. The first is that it takes time and patience to learn and internalize each new tool to the point where you can apply it and get results. The second is that with the seemingly infinite number and combination of complexities that impact odds as well as the human element, trading really is an art versus a science. As a consequence, the more scientific you try to be, the higher the odds you will get frustrated. It is advisable to prepare for multiple likely scenarios each day, because anything is possible in the markets.
I encourage you to create your own list of patterns with their associated odds implications, which is relevant to your own style of trading, if you have not already done so. Your level of understanding of the realtionships between patterns and higher or lower odds of one thing happening over another, represents your level of understanding of market logic and the market environment. The better you understand market logic, the better you will be able to anticipate market moves, and the higher the odds you will meet your trading goals and objectives. Remembering, that you can manage risk, but you can't manage return.
I have sent my notes (detailing the odds implications of each of the patterns listed above) to Peter and Brad. I am more than willing to share them with other Shadow Traders who may have an interest, provided Peter and Brad feel it is appropriate and figure out an appropriate way to do so. I do not consider myself to be an expert on this stuff and I am definitely not trying to impress anyone. My only motivation for sharing is to pay back and help other Shadow Trader listeners. I have not only learned a great deal from Brad and Peter, but also from other Shadow Traders' questions and comments over the years. As I mentioned in a prior post, I have been learning about Dalton's approach on and off for the last three years, so I may be a little further ahead on the learning curve than some Shadow Trader listeners. If sharing what I have learned via my notes can help speed-up the learning process for other interested Shadow Traders, then that is great. What makes the Shadow Trader program so powerful is the interaction and sharing among traders.
Also per Mark Douglas, is that the focus of your trading should be on what you need to learn or what you need to do to adapt to the market environment. The process of creating and organizing my own notes has helped me internalize Dalton's approach to trading. I have shared these notes with James and Julia at J Dalton Trading and have gotten invaluable input from both. What I found interesting though, was a comment I received back in an email from James, and that was "Traders are notorious for not sharing". So with this in mind, I thank Peter and Brad for creating an environment where Shadow Traders can share and learn with each other.
